A reply to a post at: “alt.arabic.politics” Jews & Arabs (edited and extended 24/2/2009)
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Nationalism: Article 3, Jews and ArabsA few short words on the subject, as my contribution, should do; I am not an Arab nor am I a Palestinian either, nor a Jew or Israeli. I am a Croat (Hrvat in Croatian) and am descendant from angel Arvath (Hrvat in original form of expression), connected with the planet Uranus, as described in “HRVATUM 94”. My ex wife used to praise Jews for their brilliance, but when the Victor Marsden’s “Protocols of the learned elders of Zion” are mentioned, it does not say much to her, thus leaving her where she always was and as she was; she is a descendant of the English upper-class stock, a nation that was roller-coasted by the Jews in Middle Age with their brilliance with intrigues and money matters. Many nations were impressed and frightened of Jews, those without a nationality and home (state), and their ability to work against the very nation that gave them shelter and security thus taking them in as their own; which will gradually become centre of subversive activities. If one reads the mentioned Protocols, then everything should be clear; especially if we take in account that many of those brilliant do know were they stand and do not mix their nationality with their religious affiliation.
Gratitude, that one would expect of all those lost in wilderness, i.e. souls taken-in to find their identity, by some of Jewry was expressed in all the countries where they settled in a very selfish manner and attitude, serving their own interest alone, thus appearing as a foreign element within a society, that would culminate in high treason; different countries applied different formulas for solving of that same problem, which was not in Judaism as much as in a form of Zionism that is anti-national in its essence. From intellectual point of view, one can easily understand it, considering that everything comes from oneself and one has to search within: thus Jews were divided in accepting nationality of their host country, some did and some did not, thus being viewed as the vermin and parasites in their society.
Since a high treason applies only to a national entity and excludes foreigners (one can betray their own only and can spy on the foreigners), and for spaying there was not enough evidence, the countries were practically powerless in front of their own law; they would have to disregard their own law to bring the justice in. Zionists i.e. the Jews that were involved in conspiratorial work against their host country or state (which became, as proven, a part of international intrigue), the host country had great difficulty to bring the charges against their non-national elements; so they looked for ways to get rid of subversives. Zionists purposely asserted themselves as loudspeakers for all Jews regardless of their wish and started to “defend all Jewry”, thus putting the authorities in dilemma when trying to distinguish a loyal national element from the subversive one. Those Jews who refused to be “protected” by Zionist have been exposed to severe maltreatments by Zionist, and at the same time were denounced by Zionist to the authorities as subversives, which in turn brought them additional punishment. Old tricks used by always new dogs.
In Germany it led to Final Solution and “resettlement” i.e. expulsion of all those Jews believed to be involved in subversive activity to newly acquired territory in Poland (where the Polish population was not very happy to see them there either); some other German patriots of Jewish descent were left in Germany; many of them served in the German army (Wehrmacht)* or where involved with science*, and rest were workers*. However, these people did suffer too because of treacherous attitude of their own folks of Zionist affiliation that was involved in subversive activity against their adoptive country, Germany, as well, as they were in any other country in the world that took them in.
However, it may be that some sufferings of innocent Germans of Jewish descent did occur, but it could easily be justified by bearing in mind all the circumstances; they all could be clearly distinguished as Jews by their names alone and was very difficult to establish their loyalty to the nation, especially so, because the loyal Jews were regularly denounced to authorities as traitors by their brethren who where organized either trough their Zionist organization or trough the Masonic organization that they have infiltrated and controlled to a great extent. It is those German Jews who have felt the National call and embrace the German nation in a reciprocal manner, with love that Germany gave to them all, that have paid the high price for atrocious machinations and intrigues conducted by their brethren and been used in propaganda war against Germany and National of every nation of the world.
Zionists have created their state on the premises that are not national and therefore, as having no root in any of the nations of this world, it has no right to exist on its own; it could exist only as a suzerainty of a nation, as Palestinian nation for example. By usurping their right to statehood, without being a real nation, they will be the trouble spot as long they exist; therefore it is true that, as quoted, 'If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel' -Benjamin Netanyahu, because peace would come by force, but those “Arabs” are in fact Palestinians, a nation that is there since time immemorial would lose the right that is theirs, and Israelis of yesterday would gain right that is not their. Therefore, it is in interest of Zionists to hang on the loot as long as they can at any and every cost, as a springboard and model for the future conquest; they will have support of all or some of those countries where the National is questionable (i.e. infiltrated and controlled by Zionism), and those who are not national countries as such.
As for brilliance of Jews in comparison with Arabs, here it is: as seen from above, Jews have always sought to live amongst those more affluent, tending to be usually on top of things, thus scooping the cream for themselves; and this very characteristic contributed to their popularity among the general populace, or unpopular, everybody knows for themselves. Thus they have all chances for their best to be brought to the surface; they went to the very best schools etc. Of course, as mention before, some of them were doomed by their Zionist brethren and Rabies, who also have trouble to separate National from religion. Given all this it shows them rather in a very dim light, especially when Nobel Prize goes only to the mainstream thinkers or scientists. All in all, give and take, in that regard Jews are rather disappointing bunch.
As for Arabs, on the other hand, one is not able to find one point to compare: utter poverty they have to endure, wherever they go, and most of those 1.2 billion are at home, where nobody knows if they know something or not. Unlike Jews, who through Zionist organizations have settled themselves on the healthy body of wealthy nations, that they bleed to death, Arabs are mainly exploited by these the same nations. It is very small wonder that an Arab attaches a bomb to him/herself, because these people have really very little or nothing to lose; except for life that is otherwise used to work for their own slavery; and it makes sense when Jews complain about that sort of practice that, takes away one slave and endangers lives of those who like it. I do understand but that is how it is and probably wants change as long Israel lives; thus Arabs die because of Israel.
In this article (Article 3) one can see that, even though a nation is protected by National in a very straight forward manner, those Jews who have embraced the National and became loyal sons and daughter of the nation, where exposed to maltreatment caused by their Zionist Rabbis who conspired underground; it is irrelevant who the parties were. What is clear, that Zionists just used them as a best kind of excuse they could for achieving their goal: wherever Jews go they will be persecuted, because “they crucified Christ”, or because “they have no state of their own”, or … you name it. The excuses are just excuses and the truth is that they did not like to hear the Truth, that Christ was promulgating, the same Truth I am trying to bring down to you, and the Truth contains the very reason: Why Jews have no place of their own? –Because, for to establish a state one requires a nationhood that contains sovereignty, and this attribute cannot be just proclaimed by any vermin found in desert, but instead, it must be granted by the one’s Creator and/or His only Son, Messiah.
To this day, unless Zionist Rabbis have changed something, Messiah did not arrive to Jews to take them to their promised land, Israel, but they have been advised to disperse and live with other nations in honesty and to be loyal to the nation that gives them shelter and protection; which they did, and there was no problem. But, Zionist Rabbis though that Jahveh is taking too long; but Jahveh just saw that Jews are not ready for the gift (of sovereignty) to receive, so He did not send His beloved Son to them; and, as it the things stand now, since the Zionist Rabbis and their mob have established Israel as their state and creation, not Jahveh’s, there is not a slightest chance that Jahveh will lower Himself and send Messiah to bless a state that is done by lesser beings that are not worthy His blessings. With creation of the state of Israel, Zionist Rabbis have sealed the faith of the Jews to ever be able to attain nationhood on one hand and on other, with this action they have doomed the state of Israel; Israel can only exist on bloodshed, as an insecure and unhappy place to live. In its finality the Zionism is the last nail in the coffin of Jewish hope in the future.
Those Zionist Rabbis who were in charge of their flock, may be regarded as being obsessed by powers that succeeded to blind them, because the whole conspiracy is costing their flock, those who placed their trust in them, the nationhood; not only the group they led, but the lot of them. Of course, after emergence of this article, it is to expect now that the Zionist movement will put pressure on the Jewry as a whole, and proclaim their Messiah being missed* (possibly Jesus, whom they savagely hate), as one they did not recognize in time … and tragically executed by share mistake. Many things and notions can be forged with some degree of success, but sovereignty and everything that derives from it and is represented by it, cannot be forged. Zionists, as well as Jewry in general, are well aware of the fact that Jews are not able to constitute a nation; religion is another matter because it is not God’s business but strictly personal matter of each individual and if they want to celebrate some kind of unity, then good on them.
This, if it should occur, would us show “how low can Joe go” (an old Australian add, from Perth), when he want something that is not for him. Zionist Rabbis, by trying to forge sovereignty, have made impossible for other Rabbis to preach the word of Jahveh in an honest manner, and not to contradict themselves at the same time; Messiah did not arrive, but we have Israel, instead. It is too banal to be even paradoxical. But, the other denominations need not glee, because their priests and preachers have just had a lucky spin that their mob’s secret service did not have the same or similar problem on their hands as Jews had, so there was no need to resort to the extreme ridiculousness of creating something out of the blue, as Zionists did. The true religion is made by true man, i.e. Man, for a purpose of converting of all those souls lost in wilderness to His own standards that are expressed in His creation of His nation. Zionism has not that purpose, and Jewish Rabbis have not attained a status of a true man, i.e. Man. Thus, it is not a matter of ancestry of each individual so much, as the willingness to realize and embrace the Truth.
*Denotes that I do not want to argue about very specifics, where they exactly have been or what exactly they have been doing; I did write about in papers “Hrvat” and “Uvezane Misli” some thirty odd years ago. There are many accounts on this subject, and there is in some countries in place the law that prohibits denial of the holocaust. Also, take it as some kind of disclaimer, I do find my own joy in what I do and what I write; so even I stick to the Truth, I my have a silent laugh while expressing it to the public, caused by the knowledge that different readers will interpret my text differently, thus the Truth will have to be challenged again and again. For further information on these matters please refer to other authors and historians, like David Irwin for example. Whenever you see this mark after a word and no specific explanation is given for my putting it there, be sure that it did not come of its own accord and that some hidden meaning is behind it: the Truth is difficult to grasp if the mind is too narrow.
23/2/2009. (As originally posted)
Text is edited by author 24. February 2009
population is approximately 1,200,000,000 ONEBILLION TWO HUNDRED MILLION or 20% of the world's population.They have received the following Nobel Prizes: Literature: 1988 - Najib Mahfoo Peace:
1978 - Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat 1994 - Yaser Arafat: 1990 - Elias James Corey 1999 - Ahmed Zewai Economics: (zero) Physics: (zero) Medicine: 1960 - Peter Brian Medawar 1998 - Ferid Mourad TOTAL: 7 SEVEN___The Global Jewish population is approximately 14,000,000 -- OnlyFOURTEEN MILLIONor about 0.02% of the world's population.They have received the following Nobel Prizes: Literature: 1910 - Paul Heyse 1927 - Henri Bergson =20 1958 - Boris Pa sternak 1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon 1966 - Nelly Sachs 1976 - Saul Bellow 1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer 1981 - Elias Canetti 1987 - Joseph Brodsky 1991 - Nadine Gordimer World Peace: 1911 - Alfred Fried 1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser 1968 - Rene Cassin 1973 - Henry Kissinger 1978 - Menachem20Begin 1986 - Elie Wiesel 1994 - Shimon Peres
1994 - Yitzhak Rabin Physics: 1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer 1906 - Henri Moissan 1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson 1908 - Gabriel Lippmann 1910 - Otto Wallach 1915 - Richard Willstaetter 1918 - Fritz Haber 1921 - Albert Einstein 1922 - Niels Bohr 1925 - James Franck 1925 - Gustav Hertz 1943 - Gustav Stern 1943 - George Charles de Hevesy 1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi 1952 - Felix Bloch 1954 - Max Born 1958 - Igor Tamm 1959 - Emilio Segre 1960 - Don ald A. Glaser 1961 - Robert Hofstadter 1961 - Melvin Calvin 1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau 1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz 1965 - Richard Phil lips Feynman 1965 - Julian Schwinger 1969 - Murray Gell-Mann 1971 - Dennis Gabor 1972 - William Howard Stein 1973 - Brian David Joseph son 1975 - Benjamin Mottleson 1976 - Burton Richter 1977 - Ilya Prigogine 1978 - Arno Allan Penzias 1978 - Peter L Kapitza 1979 - Stephen Weinberg 1979 - Sheldon Glashow 1979 - Herbert Charles Brown 1980 - Paul Berg 1980 - Walter Gilbert 1981 - Roald Hoffmann 1982 - Aaron Klug 1985 - Albert A. Hauptman 1985 - Jerome Karle 1986 - Dudley R. Herschbach
1988 - Robert Huber 1988 - Leon Lederman 1988 - Melvin Schwartz 1988 - Jack Steinberger 1989 - Sidney Altman 1990 - Jerome Friedman 1992 - Rudolph Marcus 1995 - Martin Perl 2000 - Alan J. Heeger Economics: 1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson 1971 - Simon Kuznets 1972 - Kenneth Joseph Arrow 1975 - Leonid Kantorovich 1976 - Mil ton Friedman 1978 - Herb ert A. SimonA0 1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein 1985 - Franco Modigliani 1987 - Robert M. Solow 1990 - Harry Markowitz 1 990 - Merton Miller 1992 - Gary Becker 1993 - Robert Fogel Medicine: 1908 - Elie Metchnikoff 1908 - Paul Erlich 1914 - Robert Barany 1922 - Otto Meyerhof 1930 - Karl Landsteiner 1931 - Otto Warburg 1936 - Otto Loewi 1944 - Joseph Erlanger 1944 - Herb ert Spencer Gasser 1945 - Ernst Boris Chain 1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller 1950 - Tadeus Reichstein 1952 - Selman Abra ham Waksman 1953 - Hans Krebs 1953 - Fritz Albert Lipmann 1958 - Joshua Lederberg 1959 - Arthur Kornberg 1964 - Konrad Bloch 1965 - Francois Jacob 1965 - Andre Lwoff 1967 - George Wald 1968 - Marshall W. Nirenberg 1969 - Salvador Luria 1970 - Julius Axelrod 1970 - Sir Bernard Katz 1972 - Gerald Maurice Ed elman 1975 - Howard Martin Temin 1976 - Baruch S. Blumberg 1977 - Roselyn Sussman Yalow 1978 - Daniel Nathans 1980 - Baruj Benacerraf 1984 - Cesar Milstein 1985 - Michael Stuart Brown 1985 - Joseph L. Goldstein 1986 - Stanley Cohen [& Rita Levi-Montalcini] 1988 - Gertrude Elion 1989 - Harold Varmus 1991 - Erwin Neher 1991 - Bert Sakmann 1993 - Richard J. Roberts 1993 - Phillip Sharp 1994 - Alfred Gilman 1995 - Ed ward B. Lewis